The god prayers are all pretty solid, though, which gives a SLAANESH CORE or CHARACTER unit within 6 the ability to advance and charge is the clear winner of them for its ability to push units like the Lord Discordant into a turn 1 charge. Ret's melt a hole right through the Dark Apostle, and knock a few wounds of the Lord of Skulls. Mutated Invigoration can also be huge for buffing T4 units to T5, and Warp Marked can help delete key units off the table. Chaos Space Marines have access to some great character options in the form of Daemon Princes, Lords Discordant, Dark Apostles, and Sorcerers, to name a few. They also enjoy the mortal wound protection that Word Bearers or Iron Warriors can bring. Inside the codex youll find rules for Black Legion, Word Bearers, Night Lords, Iron Warriors, Alpha Legion, Emperors Children, Red Corsairs, and Creations of Bile. With 3 attacks and the ability to take chainswords plus the CORE keyword, Chaos Bikers are an alternative to Terminators and Chosen, albeit with more speed and with the ability to move 14 theyre a real threat for early charges. Use in the opponents Shooting phase, after an enemy unit finishes making its attacks. Incredibly good. Roll less than or equal to your Ld and you can fight normally. Or you can just eviscerate them with guns like your sonic weapons. This is solid for taking down big targets, but youve got other ways to do that and very limited spell slots to work with. This unit is out there to provide some extra value where needed while Advancing to hold objectives and support other units. The one exception is in Emperors Children, who have an Epic Deed stratagem to make a nearby enemy unit Fight Last. Abaddons got the benefit of all four marks of Chaos, plus a 4+ invulnerable save and he cant take more than 3 wounds per phase. Pick a CORE unit in your army that isnt within Engagement Range of enemy units, then pick an enemy unit. While well cover Abaddons impact on Black Legion armies in the legion article for them (spoiler: Hes a must-take), when Abaddon is your Warlord (and he must be if you include him), then he gains the AGENT OF CHAOS keyword, allowing you to mix him with other legions and armies in the Supreme Command Detachment. The only question is whether your army needs him as part of its gameplan. Add in that theyre T5 and 4 wounds each and youve got a unit thats great for dumping your last 25 points into. The third walking Lord of War for Chaos Space Marines, the Brass Scorpion is a bit more of a melee threat than most, with a pair of hellcrusher claws that do flat 6 damage (2 on the sweep) and 6 attacks base. No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Chaos Cultists are an integral part of many Chaos Space Marines armies, and, in the 9th Edition codex, thats been recognised. The typical soup play is a Vanguard detachment running a Fluxmaster and three units of flamers. Though even in this form, its still. The rest of your army will be forward/push threats, which take the battle to your opponent, disrupt their plans, and ideally pin them in their deployment zone. Theres typically no reason to take this over Banners or even Retrieve Nephilim Data. They were plenty annoying with their Music of the Apocalypse ability that allowed them to get one final swipe in before they died outright. is the best pick of those. Its not terrible, but to really get value out of it you need it on a weapon with. The CSM get four different trait tables. Let's take a look at those cult troops and just imagine the possibilities. The Hellforged sword on the Daemon Prince is the, fit for this, since its a 3-damage, AP-3 weapon that only hits at S8 decent, but could be better. . You get these free if your Apostle has a mark. Only Masters of Possession get access to the Malefic Discipline. The main use for this is for giving Light Cover to qualifying units like Lord Discordants, Contemptors, or Helbrutes that are Vehicles and dont normally get Light Cover from terrain. They basically run around with a 2+ save. The issue here is that if youre taking a Nurgle character that wants to get close to the enemy, there are better options. Note that CULTIST units can only know the first three prayers on the list, i.e. The bearer knows an additional prayer and each time they chant, if they succeed, the closest enemy unit within 18 and visible takes D3 mortal wounds. Plague Marines come with T5 and Disgustingly Resilient, reducing the damage they take by 1. The Decimator is a unit thats managed to stick around in some competitive lists despite losing its access to easy re-rolls and the ability to push out tons of extra hits with modified hit rolls. The Daemon Prince is more of a utility piece than a beaststick. This works amazingly well on a, who already re-rolls wounds against Characters, or the. Even Space Marines need to be wary of those Damage 2 tentacles - whatever their allegiance. But ultimately you have to really ask if these guys are better than Chosen, who at 3 points more hit at higher AP and come with an extra wound and get your Legion Trait. The god prayers are all pretty solid, though Blissful Devotion which gives a SLAANESH CORE or CHARACTER unit within 6 the ability to advance and charge is the clear winner of them for its ability to push units like the Lord Discordant into a turn 1 charge. Goonhammer Reads Science Fiction: Women! Pick a INFANTRY or CHAOS SPAWN unit within 6. Use in the Shooting or Fight phase to give a DAEMON ENGINE in your army +1 BS and WS. For a Word Bearers army, you may want to focus on daemonic troops, such as more Possessed, or even dipping a toe into actual Chaos Daemons. take a Mark of Chaos for one of the four Chaos Gods, giving him +1 Strength and attack if you Khorne or making him a Psyker if you take one of the others. TZEENTCH model only. Decimators have more value when you can boost their odds of hitting, which is easier in Black Legion but can be accomplished with the. The Heldrake has seen some outside play in some Iron Warriors lists but trust me when I tell you that the Heldrake is just going to break your heart. From a durability standpoint, Daemon Princes are OK. Toughness 6 isnt amazing and having a 4+ invulnerable save against shooting is helpful but 5+ against melee much less so. The Master of Possession is one of the games best psyker units, and Chaos Legionnaire units can take a psyker as well for additional versatility and the ability to toss out mortal wounds. These are also much more powerful in Black Legion or Iron Warriors, as they really love +1 to Hit since they cant get rerolls or access to a stratagem to fire their Blast weapons into combat. The added bonus of the 9+ cast means that about 28% of your casts will be un-deniable, which is a nice bonus, but not something you can depend on. Until the end of your Shooting phase, provided that unit does not move again it is considered to have Remained stationary. Click for details. Whether teleporting in or walking up the table, they can reliably put out some solid shots, though theyre much more effective against smaller targets where their Warp Hail firing mode (D6+9 shots) can let them casually wipe units off the table than they are when it comes to firing heavier modes, though even their focused shots throwing out D3 S9 Ap-3 4 damage shots each are nothing to sneeze at. Another solid stratagem to have in your pocket, and good for keeping the likes of Venomcrawlers on the table. People! Why wait for GW's ponderous feels-bad rules system? PIck one LEGIONARIES unit from your army; if it is the Shooting phase, that unit can shoot again; if it is the fight phase and that unit is within Engagement Range of enemy units, that LEGIONARIES unit can fight again. He comes with 6 attacks base and the Axe of dismemberment, a S7, AP-3, 2 damage weapon that does 2 mortals every time you roll a 6 to hit (and the sequence ends). Nothing, so get grabbing some Chaos Cultists. Its more a novelty than anything youd want to take in competitive play, in part because its weapons arent really worth the cost they just dont have enough shots nor do the shots they have hit hard enough to matter, passed by in an edition that has become increasingly deadly. Yes, Chaos Space Marines players youve beseeched the Ruinous Powers, and they have listened. Add in the ability to outright kill a T4 model 50% of the time on top of that and its got some power. Its not quite enough to justify the unit cost, and so Forgefiends dont often see competitive play, but note that it is significantly better than what a Defiler can put out with ranged attacks. This is ultimately just not a good enough rate for T4 targets, and requires you get all of 10 models into engagement range to even produce a solid output. fell bond to prevent their targets from getting Light Cover and youre set. Use in any phase when a TRAITORIS ASTARTES NURGLE unit is picked as the target of an attack. If theres a place Helbrutes have play, its in Creations of Bile, where having 7 Movement and S7 base makes them a little bit more deadly and useful, or potentially in Black Legion, where getting +1 to hit can mitigate the downsides of it being a WS/BS 3+ unit. One cool thing to note is that the Noctilith Crown is a Warp Locus. do Psychic Interrogation. Good for Obliterators. But each time you fight with it, an unmodified hit roll of 6 does 2 mortal wounds and ends the attack sequence. If you've been scammed I suggest reporting it to the police. This is extremely good, and the ability to give it to a squad champion with. As a result Plague Marines dont really have a place in most competitive CSM lists. Use in the Shooting phase. In this section, well discuss using each of these units outside of their parent legions. Until the start of your next psychic phase, that unit has a 4+ invulnerable save. Its good for units that need to hold objectives in the open, like your 10-model terminator brick thats already loading up at the buff-et. Cypher is an interesting unit. Just think how durable that will make units like Rubric Marines or Plague Marines. Legend has it the original version of this titanic battling game would have contained Imperium titans facing off against their Eldar counterparts but an issue with the models saw the Eldar being dropped from the box at the last minute. This is probably the best of the Chaos Space Marine secondary objectives and even at its best its just so-so. An area where the Chaos Space Marines army really shines is in the HQ slot, where it has a number of strong choices that can be built into real melee blenders. The Chaos Predator also got a touch-up in Codex Chaos Space Marines, receiving a T8 chassis that vastly improves the tanks durability. This is most commonly used to give a big unit of Terminators the Black Rune, but there are plenty of other choice relics in there, such as Blade of the Relentless and Claws of the Stygian Count, that might be decent plays in some lists to boost the damage output or versatility of a certain unit. The sheer volume of mortal wounds you can put out with this is absurd, and its going to do its best work when you combine it with Warlord Traits like, get mortals on 6s to wound. Having the mark of Slaanesh also means they can be blessed with Delightful Agonies, giving them a 5+ feel no pain on top of 2+ save and -1 to wound. Try to build an army that will reliably be able to score at least two secondaries regardless of the opponent or situation, and then make your third pick contingent. Park it on an objective and when an opponent pops it youve suddenly got a big unit sitting on the spot. So, about those 2 Wound Chaos Space Marines? Each time an attack is made against this unit, if the Strength characteristic of that attack either equals or is at last double the Toughness characteristic of this unit, subtract 1 from that attacks wound roll. Most of the time a Spawn is an added unit that eats up your last 25 points, though. Been covered in other threads, but I am not sure it was us that was bamboozled. Notable for being a flyer that can also fight things with its claws, the Heldrake is a unit that will mostly disappoint you, largely because its rules just dont seem like they were written by someone who understood what it means to make something an AIRCRAFT. Typically these units add a number of combi-meltas, power fists, and chainfists in order to maximize their damage output, though your mileage may vary based on how many points you have left. CHAOS UNDIVIDED model only. The remaining 7 are covered in Codex: Chaos Space Marines, along with two additional Legions, the Red Corsairs and Creations of Bile. At 6/7 Leadership theyre also less likely to flee or kill you on Dread Tests and for 10 points more getting a unit that can actually ruin someones day with a meltagun and plasma gun is pretty solid. This was written in December 2022, after the release of Codex: Chaos Space Marines for 9th edition. Instead, well cover each section with a general discussion of the good units, relics and stratagems, point out any traps, and then discuss how these pieces fit into a competitive army. This is going to get you the most play in Night Lords, where you can prevent an opponent from shrugging off your Ld debuffs by just using the strat, though they can still just roll a regular 1. Note that not every unit that can take a mark can take an icon, and that dramatically affects how useful some of these are. This upgrades a melee weapon, turning it into a Relic and Daemon Weapon. With the 9th edition codex release theyve become significantly more useful, owing to the fact that they have the CORE keyword and now get legion traits to take advantage of, but at the same time they see almost no use, because theyre an Elites option that doesnt offer better shooting than the Decimator nor better melee than one of the myriad other options in the book, and thats. Giving +1 Toughness is going to do the most work for you on T4 models, but you can also pair this with something like Berzerkers to give them Strength 7 on the charge, helping them hack up vehicles. They get another prayer on top of that, plus an additional free one for their god if you give them a mark of Chaos. Both of these are solid abilities to have and contribute to making this the mark of choice in competitive lists. If psychic powers arent your thing, what about praying to the dark gods for help? While a unit is in a table quarter dedicated to a chaos god, they get +2 Ld unless they have a god mark other than the one you picked. Announcing The Goonhammer 2023 Global 40k Campaign. You also dont have to put it into deep strike its tough enough that if youre taking multiples they can just roll forward against some armies and weather the damage, though how much you can get away with this will vary wildly by army. This is another very solid durability buff, and can pair well with Nurgle Terminators who want the added durability. Unfortunately, as an HQ character theres almost no way they see play over your other HQ options, making them a casualty of the limited number of HQ slots you can field. This is a very solid upgrade on your unit, and the ability to just sit there and tank a million attacks from something like a knight or the Yncarne can absolutely swing the game. After all, the Heretic Astartes have two Wounds now, too We've still got loads more to show you from the forthcoming Chaos Space Marines codex - sign up for our newsletter to get the latest heretical updates straight to your inbox. Youll have a hard time doing some things you would want to do, like bring a second detachment to bring more HQs, and will have to very carefully manage your CP expenditure during the game. But there was a lot more to the video, too. But if you made a Defiler much better at one of those two things for cheaper, you just end up with Forgefiends and Maulerfiends. The Mark of Slaanesh is just really, really good. , and each time they make an attack with a Rapid Fire, Assault, or Pistol weapon, an unmodified hit roll of 6 scores 1 additional hit. Pick an enemy unit within 12 and it cant use any invulnerable saves until your next Psychic phase. NURGLE model only. If Chaos has a direct human form, it may be in Haarken Worldclaimer, who takes a savage glee in battle, with his vast army of jetpack-borne Chaos Raptors. This is really, really good re-rolling wounds is great, and this gives you the built-in ability to fish for mortals on 6s. Marks represent the benefits units get for devoting themselves to the Chaos powers. Sorcerers have fallen out of vogue in the 9th edition codex, in part because the Dark Hereticus discipline they draw from just doesnt bring much to the table any more now that Warptime was nerfed. They make wonderful backfield objective holders if they can stay out of line of sight, they raise banners just as well as more expensive units, they make wonderful screens, and theyre garbage enough that shooting them will almost certainly be a waste of bullets for your opponent. This essentially makes them the equivalent of Bladeguard Veterans for Chaos Space Marines, except they cost 10 points per model less in exchange for only doing 1 damage with their swords and not having an invuln save. He can kill pretty much anything in the game in melee, and if you can avoid getting shot he can be near-impossible to remove once hes dug in, especially if you can heal him with something like Pact of Flesh. This means your choice of chaos god patron for your army Khorne, Nurgle, Slaanesh, Tzeentch, or Chaos Undivided matters more than ever before, and itll change how your army performs on the battlefield. to ensure that youre wounding your targets on a 2+/3+ with multiple units in your army on the same turn. Based strictly on the old Aspiring Champion plastic model from the 7th edition version of the Dark Vengeance starter kit, the Exalted Champion comes with an exalted power axe, a combi-melta, and an aura to re-roll wound rolls of 1 for nearby units, making him more like the space marine Lieutenants he resembles. The closest visible enemy unit takes D3 mortal wounds, then you roll a D6 for every other enemy unit within 6 of that unit takes a mortal wound on a 4+. In Emperors Children they can roll a 6+d6 charge out of deep strike, which significantly increases their effectiveness. This gives Chaos Space Marines four solid Troops choices in their games, and thats pretty cool. Armies leaning very heavily into Daemonkin or Daemon Engines might even want to consider running 2 Masters Of Possession for access to more of these powers. Hes always got the AGENT OF CHAOS keyword, and if your army includes any CHAOS LORD models (which includes the likes of Abaddon, Lucius, Haarken, and Huron Blackheart, he can be included in a detachment without taking up a slot. Its great for Terminators and Possessed, and particularly good against elite armies like Custodes that rely on having BS/WS 2+ and re-rolls to hit. The Imperial Armour Compendium updated these to be 115 points and be able to arrive on the battlefield turn 1. You can find out more about which cookies we are using or switch them off in settings. Chaos is coming. There are a bunch of different ways to kit him out depending on how killy vs. durable you want him to be, and there are plenty of different ways to use him in-game. So whether you can take Flamers in Emperors Children without losing army benefits will vary by event. It looks scarier than it is. Legionaries come in units of 5 models and come with bolt pistol and boltgun, plus 3 attacks and yes, 2 wounds. The net result is a unit thats just good enough to see play, and often will, sometimes as a 2-of or 3-of, depending on the list. Legion (also, they become Troops in an Emperors Children Detachment). Pick a TZEENTCH unit within 18. This is a unit that can absolutely trade up, and loves to use Veterans of the Long War to take down bigger targets. || Tabletop Spotlight, Warhammer 40K: JOYTOY Chaos Havocs Pack A Punch In These New Pics. At 5 attacks each (6 for the champion), Warp Talons boast damage output on par with Berzerkers but lack the ability to take a mark of chaos and instead must get by on the raw power of their datasheet. On the more generic side buffs tend to be more useful than debuffs, and. In addition to having a decent statline with 6 attacks, the Daemon Prince. This is OK, but this is really kitted out for a Dark Apostle. Benediction of Darkness, Litany of Despair, and Omen of Potency. Credit: genola. The Executioners are fast and bring something to the table that Chaos Marines generally lack: Solid long-ranged shooting. Chaos Contemptors have been up and down for most of 9th edition, waxing and waning as the ways to buff them have come and gone. When these guys made it to combat, they straight-up murdered units. As we mentioned above, when it comes to melee, you cant do better than Berserkers or Possessed. But now? . Havocs made a splash on their initial release but have struggled to find a spot in Chaos Space Marine armies, primarily because their weapon options leave a bit to be desired Heavy Bolters, Autocannons, and Reaper Chaincannons are just all kind of meh, while Missile Launchers and Lascannons are a bit too variable to depend on. 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